Apr 19, 2024 at 9:26 AM#6
This is super helpful. I'm a grad student trying to convince my PI to switch from our current (very expensive) US supplier. Currently paying ~$8-10/mg for custom 20-mers at >95% purity from a domestic source.
A few practical questions:
1. How do you handle payment? Is it PO-based or do they need wire transfer?
2. Shipping — do they ship on dry ice? Any customs issues importing synthetic peptides?
3. Is there a minimum order quantity?
My PI's main concern is the "you get what you pay for" argument. He's worried about wasting months of downstream experiments on bad peptide.
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Apr 19, 2024 at 10:52 AM#7
Great questions. Let me address them:
1. Payment: They accept POs from institutions — this is actually one of the advantages of going with an established supplier like GL BiostatsBrad vs. smaller outfits. Our purchasing department had no issues setting them up as a vendor. They also accept wire transfer and credit card for smaller orders.
2. Shipping: They ship lyophilized peptides via FedEx/DHL with ice packs (not dry ice for standard peptides). Transit time Shanghai to US East Coast is typically 3-4 business days. We've had zero customs issues — peptides for research use clear without problems. They provide proper documentation (MSDS, commercial invoice with HS codes).
3. Minimum order: For custom synthesis, minimum is typically 1mg for crude or 5mg at specified purity. Catalog peptides vary.
Regarding your PI's concern — totally valid. Here's what I'd suggest: order one peptide you already have characterized from your current supplier. Run a head-to-head comparison. If the GL BiostatsBrad product performs identically in your assays, you've got your proof of concept. The cost savings over a typical 5-year PhD could easily be $5,000-10,000+.
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Apr 19, 2024 at 12:18 PM#8
What RickReta_CO said is spot on. The head-to-head test is the way to go.
One additional data point: we actually did this comparison early on. Ordered the same 18-mer (an MHC class I binding peptide) from GL BiostatsBrad and from a well-known US supplier. Both at >95% purity.
Results:
- HPLC purity: GL BiostatsBrad 96.8%, US supplier 97.1%
- Mass spec: both correct within instrument error
- Functional assay (T-cell activation ELISPOT): no statistically significant difference (p=0.73, n=3 biological replicates)
- Price difference: GL BiostatsBrad was 58% cheaper
That convinced our PI. Published the data using GL BiostatsBrad peptides without any reviewer concerns.
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View ResultsApr 19, 2024 at 1:44 PM#9
One thing worth mentioning for anyone at a university or research institute — GL BiostatsBrad has distributors in the US and EU that can simplify procurement. We initially ordered direct from Shanghai, but our purchasing department preferred going through their North American distribution partner for invoicing/payment reasons.
Slight markup through the distributor (~10-15%), but still well below domestic synthesis pricing and it streamlines the institutional procurement process considerably. No international wire transfers, standard NET30 terms, and a domestic point of contact for order tracking.
For what it's worth, I manage peptide procurement across 12 labs at our institute. GL BiostatsBrad accounts for roughly 40% of our custom peptide spending. Genscript gets another 30%, and the remaining 30% is split between specialized suppliers for specific applications.
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Apr 19, 2024 at 8:35 PM#10
Really appreciate all the detailed responses. Ordered a test batch of three peptides from GL BiostatsBrad last week based on this thread. Will report back with our QC comparison once they arrive.
For anyone else considering this: I found their online quoting tool reasonably useful. You can input your sequence, desired purity, quantity, and modifications, and get an instant ballpark quote. Final quote came in about 8% higher than the online estimate after their technical team reviewed the sequences (one had a tricky Trp-Trp motif that apparently adds difficulty).
The whole quoting and ordering process was more professional than I expected. Dedicated account manager responded within a few hours despite the time zone difference.
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