sean_dublin said:Worth answering the question that was asked rather than the one behind it.
All true, with one condition: that curve is for people who reached the dose on schedule. Anyone who slowed the ladder for tolerability is on a different, flatter curve, and comparing yourself with the published mean will make you feel like a non-responder when you are not.
anna.melb_AU said:The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central.
This is exactly what I could not find anywhere else.
sean_dublin said:Worth answering the question that was asked rather than the one behind it.
I read this differently from sean_dublin, on substance rather than tone. The trial means are being read too generously in this thread. STEP populations were selected, supported, and titrated by protocol, and the real-world curves are consistently a few points worse. That difference is not noise, it is what happens when you remove the study infrastructure.
If somebody has the primary source to hand I would rather cite it than paraphrase it.
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View ResultsAdding the numbers, since they settle part of this. If you are comparing against somebody else’s result, check that you are comparing the same measurement taken the same way. Most of the apparent contradictions in these threads dissolve at that step.