Dr.NephBHM_UK said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
Fair, and it stops being fair at the extremes. The middle of the range is well understood; the ends are where the honest answer is that nobody knows.
BrianDallas92 said:The glucagon component looks paradoxical and is not.
Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework.
Dr.NephBHM_UK said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
I do not accept the framing. The question has been narrowed to the version that has a tidy answer, and the part that was dropped is the part the OP actually asked about.
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