Dr.ReproEndo said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
Agreed, and the size of the effect matters as much as its existence. Something real and small gets treated here as though it were real and decisive.
Dr.EndoIndy said:Month 13 update on sleep apnoea: down 25 lbs from my starting weight of 260 lbs.
This answered a question I did not know how to ask. Printing the relevant bit and taking it with me.
Dr.ReproEndo said:The honest answer is that the effect is real, the magnitude is contested, and the individual variation is larger than either.
Careful with the causal language. Two things moving together in a period when five things changed is not a mechanism, and stating it as one makes the thread less useful to somebody reading it later.
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Shop Reference StandardsOne concrete data point for the thread. The boring version of this is the one that works, and the boring version is: measure a baseline, change one variable, wait, measure again under the same conditions. Nobody wants that answer and it is still the answer.