Dr.PulmRoch said:I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.
CRP reduction on cardiovascular risk — this is the lab result that excites me most:
Baseline hsCRP: 10.0 mg/L (high cardiovascular risk)
Month 6 hsCRP: 2.5 mg/L (moderate risk)
Month 12 hsCRP: 0.3 mg/L (low risk)
This level of inflammatory marker reduction is comparable to what you'd see with statin therapy. Combined with the weight loss, my 10-year ASCVD risk score dropped from 17% to 5%. My cardiologist is genuinely impressed.
PharmD_Rodriguez said:DanielChem_CHI said: ...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...
This answered a question I did not know how to ask.
Dr.PulmRoch said:I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.
Dr.PulmRoch said:...we don't know the long-term effects of cardiovascular risk...
This is a fair point, and I think intellectual honesty requires acknowledging it. GLP-1 agonists in their current form have ~8-10 years of human exposure data. That's not nothing, but it's not 30+ years either.
However: the risk-benefit calculation should also consider the KNOWN long-term effects of untreated obesity — diabetes, cardiovascular disease, cancer, joint destruction, reduced lifespan by 5-10 years.
Uncertainty about GLP-1 long-term safety vs certainty about obesity consequences. The calculus seems clear to me, but reasonable people can disagree.
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Browse GL Biochemtane_welly said:Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.
NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).
From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.
Compare to established therapies:
| Intervention | NNT | Timeframe |
|---|---|---|
| Semaglutide (MACE) | 67 | 3.3 years |
| Statins primary prevention (MI) | ~100 | 5 years |
| Aspirin secondary prevention | ~77 | 2 years |
These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.